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thinking of songs
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Jim D
2019-02-01 19:15:27 UTC
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Some dude is dumping every song ever done, ever, as karaokie ( only a
slight exaggeration ) on some other group. I've been looking at the
titles. Light goes on over my head ... I not only don't know a lot of
these songs, I've never even heard of the artists.

two things ...

- there is far too much music being produced. No wonder the artists say
they can't make any money.

- also, most of it, the songs themselves, are crap.

my head is hurting just looking at the lists. In the old days, I'd
have grabbed every midi of every song that showed up. Now, I don't even
want these karaokie versions. Yeah, they are in audio format and
that's part of it. Unlike midi files there's nothing much I can learn
from these things. If I want to spend a few days learning some so so
guitar or keyboard part, I can just listen to the original record.

At least with some of the better midi format files, I might maybe learn
something from how it's done / put together. Actual karaokie files,
pretty much useless for learning.

Songs come and go so quickly, if it takes any time at all to learn
them, why bother ? By the time we could have a new / on the charts
song doable for the band ( about a week ), it'll be yesterdays news
anyway. Ha, again a slight exaggeration, but not much.


No, the only reason to learn covers, for us, is if we like the songs.
Otherwise, like Ouise points out, they are ... old stale boring ....
or, if we're talking about modern " country " ..... I'll take what Tom
Petty called it " bad rock with a fiddle ".

If we were kids, working in bars, then maybe it'd be worth the time
learning the new " country ". But we're not, and the drive to do that
is long, long gone. I know, because we had that once, did that scene
for many years. Past that now.


Am I burning out ? From the tone of my posts lately, it kinda sounds
like it. Here's the thing, band girl just told me ( over phone )
that in addition to my weekday solo and our duo stuff, we have every
saturday booked from now to mid summer sometime. Every freekin'
saturday for months out ..... That might sound great, but it comes at a
cost. Like, I have to play these songs we learn, and frankly, I'm
getting pretty tired of some of them. Looking for new songs and
finding really lame modern country, I can't even begin to dredge up any
enthusium for that crap. In the past, I might think, hey, learn these
and I'll get gigs and be out playing, making money and partying. We'll,
that's not a carrot anymore, as we have all the work we can do, and
partying isn't the lure it once was :-)

I need to find some other motivation, something past working a lot .. :-)


Buying new gear doesn't even excite me anymore. It's all the same, meet
the new gear, same as the old gear ( boss ). Thinking some new piece
of kit will make us sound better, well, maybe, but generally if you
think that, you're kidding yourself. Getting better takes work, not a
charge card :-)


.......

time to hit the Windsor ........


JimD
Ouisie
2019-02-04 19:58:33 UTC
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Do what you Love!
Write Awesome Originals and make history!!!
You'll have NO competition because Non-Thinking Zombies can't compete with
Thinking Creativity!!!
And you'll earn the unending gratitude of multitudes who've been waiting for
decades and hoping for such a rebirth!

Ouisie
Jim D
2019-02-05 05:27:40 UTC
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Post by Ouisie
Do what you Love!
Write Awesome Originals and make history!!!
You'll have NO competition because Non-Thinking Zombies can't compete
with Thinking Creativity!!!
And you'll earn the unending gratitude of multitudes who've been
waiting for decades and hoping for such a rebirth!
Ouisie
I had a friend once who was a good singer and player. His and my band
worked together in Detroit clubs for years. He wrote songs and tried
to break in to the Nashville game. Kept getting rejected. He was the
son of a minister, and eventually wrote some religious things. Those
took off, got on the radio, on the charts.

I remember him sitting telling me that Satan was after him. Said that
now that he has some nice original music getting attention, the record
people in Nashville are calling him. Problem is ... he'd pretty much
bottomed out in life, had a religious conversion and was no longer
interested in playing mainstream country music or working in bars. He
was going to take his wife, move back to the midwest, and start over.
Talking like that might make some people cringe, but that's the deal.
He viewed the Nashville interest as the devil trying to temp him back
into a destructive lifestyle.

He left Detroit, became a minister himself and last I heard was doing
quite well. That beats dead from some drugs or alcohol.


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thinking of this because ..... just last week I was considering writing
some music ... we were working steady, things stabilizing out ... now,
out of nowhere this volume thing is back with a vengence ...
distracting me, taking all my time up ... like " someone " doesn't want
me writing songs.

JimD
Ouisie
2019-02-05 13:39:30 UTC
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Post by Jim D
I had a friend once who was a good singer and player. His and my band
worked together in Detroit clubs for years. He wrote songs and tried to
break in to the Nashville game. Kept getting rejected. He was the son of
a minister, and eventually wrote some religious things. Those took off,
got on the radio, on the charts.
They must have been better written songs.
Post by Jim D
I remember him sitting telling me that Satan was after him. Said that now
that he has some nice original music getting attention, the record people
in Nashville are calling him.
Good Music will get attention, particularly nowadays, because so very few
are writing it.
Post by Jim D
Problem is ... he'd pretty much bottomed out in life, had a religious
conversion and was no longer interested in playing mainstream country
music or working in bars.
Who wants to work bars? But getting somewhere with brand new Fresh Music is
always interesting!
Post by Jim D
He was going to take his wife, move back to the midwest, and start over.
Talking like that might make some people cringe, but that's the deal. He
viewed the Nashville interest as the devil trying to temp him back into a
destructive lifestyle.
A destructive lifestyle can happen anywhere, as can the Stupid decision to
partake of it. Blaming it on Music, or anything else,other than a poor
choice is just copping out.
Post by Jim D
He left Detroit, became a minister himself and last I heard was doing
quite well. That beats dead from some drugs or alcohol.
Sounds like he was called to serve the Lord as a minister.
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Post by Jim D
thinking of this because ..... just last week I was considering writing
some music ... we were working steady, things stabilizing out ... now, out
of nowhere this volume thing is back with a vengence ... distracting me,
taking all my time up ... like " someone " doesn't want me writing songs.
JimD

To Hell with what someone doesn't want! You can write songs anyway!

Ouisie

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